tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28823501.post5812552365501988793..comments2023-06-19T23:26:32.126+10:00Comments on QuantumG's Blog: Why Human Spaceflight?QuantumGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17336493213317053535noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28823501.post-25569036583035718922012-01-27T19:57:55.984+10:002012-01-27T19:57:55.984+10:00I can tell english isn't your first language, ...I can tell english isn't your first language, so thanks for the effort. I get what you are saying and yes, it is a critical perspective that is lacking.QuantumGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17336493213317053535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28823501.post-63674672559333115882012-01-27T18:15:32.644+10:002012-01-27T18:15:32.644+10:00The vibrational consistency of Soil is exclusive a...The vibrational consistency of Soil is exclusive and people have developed with this consistency, and this severity element but when they go into space, all gamble are off, the planet has modified. The people biosystem must then cope with it all and it performs damage to the body.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.weltraumflug24.de" rel="nofollow">Weltraumflug</a>Melissa27https://www.blogger.com/profile/12122319754015656841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28823501.post-6704369508953633922010-12-16T05:58:36.668+10:002010-12-16T05:58:36.668+10:00The prospect of self sufficient living in space se...The prospect of self sufficient living in space seems improbable to me. We are descendent from 3.5 billion years of evolution to live on earth with its 3.5 billion years worth of likewise earth tuned biological support. Even this perfectly matched environment is at risk from our successful exploitation of it. Space could probably be inhabited by some other organism that evolved or was designed for it, but for Homo sapiens, it will likely only be done with vast amounts of material support from the planet earth.Blog Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06757502365981924276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28823501.post-86423569259992340482010-11-25T05:03:12.699+10:002010-11-25T05:03:12.699+10:00Sagan (and Clarke) stated that unless we keep on g...Sagan (and Clarke) stated that unless we keep on going forward - we are certain to sink back into another dark age. Take a look around you. America. It is well into a 'new' dark age. <br /><br />Once, we were actually.. truly, an interplanetary society. We could - and did.. successfully leave this planet - visit our little companion planetoid, and return. Safely, repeatedly. Plus - we brought along our car..!!! And now..? We only have 1 decrepit shuttle.. and only one flight left with that. Then.. we won't even be able to reach orbit. We'll have to pay for a lift to visit OUR space station..!!<br /><br />Also, no more SST's. Our superconducting super collider (SSC), lies in ruins. <br /><br />Just like many past civilizations, America has ruins piling up.. Cities, our original space station - Skylab, it had a duplicate, a spare or 'add-on' for later, it is rusting ruins now.. despite PUBLIC FUNDING to care take it. Look around.. it is everywhere.. ruins.The Phantomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08927200456536697412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28823501.post-79981261135339106902010-06-20T22:18:53.808+10:002010-06-20T22:18:53.808+10:00A slight correction. The quoted paper merely confi...A slight correction. The quoted paper merely confirms that real world data currently fits the World 3 model using the "Standard Run." Nothing will 'prove' limits to growth short of Collapse. A suggested date/ decade: 2030s http://tinyurl.com/chkf6k<br /><br />I believe that Professor John Beddington remains as<br />http://www.dius.gov.uk/go-science/government-chief-scientific-adviser<br /><br />"No "chicken little, He" <br />(To paraphrase a commentator (Jules Bergman?) in "Apollo 13")<br /><br />As I have commented elsewhere it may be possible to preserve appropriate and sustainable STS technology for a second bite of the 'space cherry.' So that in a post Collapse system, the survivors can pick up where Oldspace (NASA, ESA, RKA) left off. Assuming of course some idi0t doesn't go for the nuclear option and delete everything...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28823501.post-30478381352781969572010-06-20T14:52:33.764+10:002010-06-20T14:52:33.764+10:00Ed, Rick was certainly an inspiration :) I could ...Ed, Rick was certainly an inspiration :) I could also throw in Arthur C. Clarke.QuantumGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17336493213317053535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28823501.post-55623627904661887282010-06-20T07:12:38.303+10:002010-06-20T07:12:38.303+10:00This is pretty much the same sort of categorizatio...This is pretty much the same sort of categorization that Rick Tumlinson came up with in his introduction to the Orphans of Apollo premiere:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2KqrKmgc-Q<br /><br />I agree with your fourth classification, the "Economic O'Neillian". However, I think that this type, and jnutley's frontiersmen, might be the Heinleinian view - TANSTAAFL and all that.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01273835203670190756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28823501.post-61066921426466789642010-06-19T13:28:30.629+10:002010-06-19T13:28:30.629+10:00thanks jnutley, that's definitely another pers...thanks jnutley, that's definitely another perspective that O'Neill introduced and one of the more timeless ones.QuantumGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17336493213317053535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28823501.post-85842340954711523162010-06-19T12:21:52.485+10:002010-06-19T12:21:52.485+10:00Sovereignty
No one on Earth is free, not even the...Sovereignty<br /><br />No one on Earth is free, not even the titular sovereigns. The weight of the expectations of their fellow humans and the inertia of precedent limit their options as surely as gravity. People will elect to move into space for the same reason they elected to emigrate from England of the 1600s to the N.A. continent, they will go in search of their own sovereignty. Like Andrew Jackson's forebears they will be a core of rich families surrounded by a troupe of techs and craftsmen. Their rhetoric may be descended from Tea-Party agitators or from Greenpeace warriors or both in their turns. They will leave the sphere whose surface is defined by L2 and L3 behind because the speed of light and the local dynamics will keep Luna forever the suburb of Earth. O'Neill scale construction will be generations in coming, but it will be built for those who have left Earth behind. It will not wait on Gold Rushes or Earth's commercial empires, it will evolve of and for itself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28823501.post-52963623759135779232010-06-19T07:39:57.551+10:002010-06-19T07:39:57.551+10:00In the later years of his life, Sagan actually bec...In the later years of his life, Sagan actually became fairly supportive of HSF. He would dress his support up with his famously flowery rhetoric but it basically came from the fact that the budget for the unmanned program tracked closely to that of the HSF funding. I remember watching him give a seminar on public TV in the early 90s in which he showed plots of funding for HSF and planetary science vs year that illustrated their correlation. <br /><br />(Similar reasoning came from the UK panel a few years ago that recommended that the govt open a HSF program. The lack of a HSF program had led to less public interest in space and this in turn led to less interest - and funding - for space science. See<br />http://tinyurl.com/bka6z<br />)<br /><br />I can't find it at the moment but I used to have a reference to testimony Sagan gave at a Congressional hearing in which he actually supported the ISS.Clark Lindseyhttp://www.spacetransportnews.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28823501.post-46486141147284651432010-06-19T06:03:20.490+10:002010-06-19T06:03:20.490+10:00Sometimes, justifications collide:
http://www.cen...Sometimes, justifications collide:<br /><br />http://www.centauri-dreams.org/Bill Whitehttp://www.platinum-moon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28823501.post-24285906550872878222010-06-19T05:10:21.477+10:002010-06-19T05:10:21.477+10:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28823501.post-14180472812269128432010-06-19T04:54:29.940+10:002010-06-19T04:54:29.940+10:00My opinion of O'Neill has taken many hits over...My opinion of O'Neill has taken many hits over the years, but the most fundamental was when I realized that thorium provides an energy source that makes access to off-world energy sources permanently unnecessary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com